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Post by Chris on Aug 20, 2008 14:59:53 GMT -5
Aaagh I get your point now.  And you're right. I've been reading and all the girl characters except (of course) Ned's daughters are talking about how they lost their virginity to these random guys.  I like how we get to see things from Brienne's POV now. And all this Dorne stuff is interesting, Braavos - Martin never runs out of ideas, because he has such a big world. Stupid Jaime needs to stop being so likable. Cersei doesn't love him anymore which makes me like him even more seeing as she's so horrible - but at the same time I kind of feel bad for him for it. -____- Ew. It really sucks that he lost his hand. How ironic the Martin takes away all his amazing fighting skills at the same time that he makes him a cool character. -___- Lol, I'm like Ned in some ways but he's a better man than I am. And he's a fictional character. Lol. How sad.  Btw, for some morbid reason I reread Robb's betrayal at the wedding and during Catelyn's final moments when she pretty much lost her mind, somebody grabbed her hair and she thought something along the lines of "Don't cut off my hair. Ned loves my hair" right before they slit her throat. It was horrible. But then she got to see him, eh?  I don't hate school. I just hate homework. It takes up my whole day. |
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Post by Chris on Aug 22, 2008 1:45:11 GMT -5
"Stoneheart, they call her." Damn you, Martin. Damn you.  |
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Post by Chris on Aug 22, 2008 1:49:57 GMT -5
I have a little less than half to go. All I know is they mentioned an outlaw lady called Stoneheart who was killed by the Freys and now she's back from the dead. f*** you, Martin. We lost the power for a bit but I'm good.  |
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Post by Chris on Aug 22, 2008 1:56:52 GMT -5
Your spoiler flag isn't working for some reason. Yay I can't wait. -___- |
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Post by Chris on Aug 22, 2008 2:02:40 GMT -5
Alas, you leave me with no choice but to read! Bye! |
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Post by Chris on Aug 22, 2008 21:36:21 GMT -5
Am I the only one to have read these here? If not, let the discussion begin, because, seriously, there is no end to the amount of theories one can have for this series. If you've not read them, hop to it with "A Game of Thrones" by George RR Martin. The main topic, for me, is: WHERE THE HECK IS BOOK FIVE. Don't read below if you've not finished through book 4... Also, how fantastic is Arya/Gendry?
--IS SHE REALLY BLIND? AAAH.
Is Brienne dead too (like everyone else)?
Who the heck will Dany end up with?
--My favourite notion on this is Jamie, muahahha... Discuss away! Ohh I have a lot of theories. I KNOW! He writes a not in 2005 saying the other half of the book should be out by NEXT YEAR. NEXT YEAR!! IT'S BEEN NEARLY THREE!!!  Grrr. A/G is one of the many things I noticed but haven't talked about with you. I always thought they balanced each other well but I wasn't convinced until they got into that fight at the inn when Dondarrion's men captured them. Martin hadn't made the flirting very obvious until then. Plus in my Ned-centered head I was thinking, how perfect would it be that his daughter and Robert's son hit it off? ;D - She can't be blind. Remember at the end of A Game of Thrones Martin made it seem like Yoren was dragging her away to rape her or something horrible but it turned out to be the opposite. Besides, remember what Syrio said? See with your eyes. She can't do that if she's blind! Or maybe since Aemon died he needed another blind character LOL! (I was really sad when that happened. . I'll rant about that later.) - Omg the Catelyn thing is HORRIBLE! But I don't think Brienne is dead. She's too badass to die. I don't ship them and I doubt it will happen but I think it would be effing hilarious if she ended up with Jaime. xDDDD - Dany. Omg Dany. I have so much to say. I had a revelation about her when I was reading this one. Cersei had been told, a younger queen and more beautiful would be the one to cast her down. But it's not Loras's sister, it's Dany! Dany with her silver hair and violet eyes. The most beautiful women in the world, Euron said. (Yet after all she's gone through I can't help but think of her as a child. Fourteen is so young! I know it's stupid. Lol. I'll accept it eventually.) The last Targaryen. And like Aemon said, that prophecy was about her. So really there are TWO prophecies about her. And Rhaeygar said his heir's song was a song on fire and ice. I was so fixated on Eddard in the first book, and then all his children afterwards, and I got so caught up in everybody's story, I never stopped to think until that moment that I realized this whole series is about Dany. I didn't think there was a main character, but leave it to Martin to give even that a twist. It's pretty overwhelming. (Omg I have soooo much more to say on this, and other things. So many things I've noticed but haven't talked with you about it yet. Of course it would help if you were on when I was. Lol. We NEED to talk!) Of course I'm sure you have tons of theories too, and probably things that I failed to notice. So. *puts on nerd glasses* We're on the same playing field now. Bring it. |
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Post by Chris on Aug 23, 2008 1:19:58 GMT -5
LOL!! Fix that right away. Yeah, I do know. Book five should have come out in 2006 and the 6th one should be coming out next year. But no. |
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Post by Chris on Aug 23, 2008 2:39:29 GMT -5
Arya and Gendry. I have loved them ridiculous amounts for forever--looked for Arya Gendry crap WAAY before I even should have been, like Ron and Hermione circa books one and two, when they were so young. What I'd really love to see with them... Actually, I need to explain my theory on Arya first and then get to that. I think she may be actually BLIND, but not permanently so. It may wear off, or she may have to do something to get the antidote. Either way, there's no telling how long its going to affect her. So--whenever she comes back to the mainland--because she will, when she's old enough and time has changed her face, I want her to run into Gendry, being the best damn swordswoman out there (besides Brienne.) Gendry and the rebellion gang and Arya will go help kick some a**. And maybe, in the end, when all the war's have done, maybe the North will have split away from the rest of the kingdom (ruled peacefully and brilliantly by Dany, who totally approves this North/South co-kingdom biznazz) and is ruled by Arya and Gendry. But that won't happen. Either way, I want them to hook up so bad it hurts. Also, same with Sansa and Sandor (WHO I DO NOT THINK IS DEAD. I think that whole schpeil the monk gave to Brienne was not about her, but about him explaining his actions to her, about him giving Sandor another chance.) And Dany--SO the main character. And SOOOO what the prophecy is about. And she SOOO deserves it. Btw I don't think she's actually barren. She's the Prince the was Promised, man, she totally IS. And my reasoning behind her and Jaime is--not only will it SUCK to be Cersei at that moment (lawl.), but he's the only character who is funny--and I really think the girl needs to LAUGH. She is so busy running a kingdom, she forgets to be a human being! The other option for her would be Jon, because of the very obvious "Ice and Fire" reference. But he's sort of the opposite of Jaime PETYR--how seriously gross is he? Discuss. OH Gaddd, what else... ok, well, digest that for now! I'll be back later with more, I can promise! Haha!! I liked the idea of Arya/Gendry back when she was Arry and he was the Bull. Why? For the same reason I liked R/Hr in the beginning. It just felt right. There was finally a guy who was big, stubborn and bullheaded enough to counter Arya. Another favorite of mine was when they were in Stoney Sept (omg! Do you remember the owner Tansa? And on his deathbed Hoster Tully kept saying her name! More on that later.) and (this being from memory) he refused that whore when he was with Arya (and thank God!! because she was his half-sister!  ) but then when they got in a fight he said he'd go and see her and Arya got jealous. xDDD But of course she didn't understand because she'd never been jealous before. More later. |
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Post by Chris on Aug 23, 2008 2:52:10 GMT -5
I KNOW!!I hope Martin follows through and doesn't just, I dunno, leave us hanging with it.
I could see him doing that.
Bastard. Hahaahahaha!!!!! ;D Completely agree with you there. |
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Post by Chris on Aug 23, 2008 12:53:26 GMT -5
www.westeros.org/Citadel/Gallery/Entry/922/Dayum. If it weren't for fear of spoilers I'd have looked at all this art ealier. My imagination doesn't do this justice. www.westeros.org/Citadel/Gallery/Entry/782/Putting all the history together: www.westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Entry/2129/www.westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Entry/1992/Sandor: www.westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Entry/2004/Brienne: www.westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Entry/2005/AAGGHH!!! Do you remember this?? www.westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Entry/2007/Tansy: www.westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Entry/2009/Meera’s story: www.westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Entry/2010/Seriously this stuff is effing ridiculous: www.westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Entry/2012/Hoooly crap. www.westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Entry/2014/And oooh loook what I found!! www.westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Entry/2291/“There’s also the cause of Lyanna’s death. The smell of blood and the fever that Ned recalls (I: 35-36) can certainly be read as the aftermath of childbirth and ensuing fatal illness. This is certainly suggestive that Lyanna could have had a child. It has been proposed that Lyanna was actually killed by one of the Kingsguard, or perhaps even by her own hand, but both seem to speak against the fever Ned remembers and the former, at least, seems sharply at odds of Eddard’s continuing admiration of Aerys’s Kingsguard.” Do you think it’s possible that the “promise” Eddard made Lyanna was to take her child as his own?? He’s so honorable I always found it hard to believe he fathered a bastard, and it hurt him so much to talk about Jon’s mother – do you think that’s because of his shame for having lied all these years, and his grief for his sister? If Jon IS her son, it would be by Prince Rhaegar, meaning that not only is Jon a Targaryen, he could be the prince that was promised rather than Dany and he could be one of the three heads of the dragon. And since he's a guy that would also make him the rightful King of Westeros.  www.westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Entry/2019/And that’s all I have. Martin is really a f**king genius. I was going to mention earlier how interested I was in seeing Howland Reed because not only was he the only other survivor in the fight with the Kingsgaurd besides Ned, but he saved Ned’s life in that fight. No to mention he and his kids have some blood of the children of the forest, they’re mysterious, etc. I think we have a lot to hear from there. And also he's the only living person who knows the truth of Jon's parentage. I got this all from here: www.westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Oh and I figured you'd like this: www.winterfell.altervista.org/gallery/sansa&sandor.jpgwww.winterfell.altervista.org/gallery/sansan_wildfire.jpgAll from here: www.winterfell.altervista.org/gallery.htmAnd holy crap!! i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97/Scott_Roberts/RhaegarsDeath03.jpg Here's also a bunch of portraits: en.amokanet.ru/gallery/martin/ |
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And you're right. I've been reading and all the girl characters except (of course) Ned's daughters are talking about how they lost their virginity to these random guys. 
Grrr. 
) but then when they got in a fight he said he'd go and see her and Arya got jealous. xDDD But of course she didn't understand because she'd never been jealous before. 
